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We The People's avatar

The lab leak hoax is another distraction, the only way to create a worldwide pandemic is to clone lots and lots of virus and spread it all over the place.

More here; https://truthaddict.substack.com/p/lab-leak-zoonotic-spillover-or-deliberate

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Edmond Paré's avatar

It didn't have to be a natural or manmade SARS coronavirus, if one even exists

Dr. David Martin suggest early on that the cause was a manmade pathogen/toxin which could be aerosolized and spread manually across the globe. In fact, Martin has stated that, prior to the WHO's declaration of a pandemic, Martin was able to predict all of the locales, across the globe, where the Plandemic would first arise.

Martin was thinking of an aerosolized manmade SARS coronavirus spike protein. Later on, Dr. Bryan Ardis pointed out that certain snake and other animal venoms will cause the same overt symptoms exhibited by Covid-19 patients and that these venoms are already being artificially made in labs and are commercially available, even as aerosols.

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We The People's avatar

They have been cooking up all sorts of coronaviruses for many years and they are very cheap to clone and aerosolize so it makes sense (if you are a genocidal psychopath) to use those but any toxin or EMF weapon could also be used to fake a pandemic. Surprisingly easy really. Hypnotism is a very powerful weapon, they seem to be able to brainwash the masses to believe anything whatsoever. I suppose a good stage hypnotist can convince you that you are a chicken and you need to lay an egg so convincing billions of a deadly pandemic worked a charm. Reminds me I must see Derren Brown again!

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Edmond Paré's avatar

Thanks! (-: -- Reminds me I must take my calcium pills this evening so my four eggs I need every morning are encased. <g>

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The Word Herder's avatar

There is no such thing as a "virus," only exosomes... yes?

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The Word Herder's avatar

Have you ever heard of this:

"Covid" is 5G.

The real weapon is the JAB.

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We The People's avatar

There are many ways to fake a worldwide pandemic, release a cloned virus all over the world, poison people all over the world using aerosolized toxins, or possibly attack people with electromagnetic frequencies causing radiation poisoning aka Havana Syndrome. Which one or more was used to fake the covid pandemic I am not 100% certain. And yes, the jab is quickly lethal to 1 in 800 people and the long term effects look bad as well. It is also a possibility that graphene oxide and quantum dots are being used to track and trace humans and/or control them using electromagnetic frequency weapons but I do not have enough data or references to prove this yet so this is all speculation at this stage.

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The Word Herder's avatar

"At this stage"... FOUR YEARS LATER.

Okay, I had to say that, just because I've been HIGHLY EDUCATED in this time!

I knew about the "dustification" of the World Trade Centers well before all this Covid insanity...

Just sayin, m'dear.

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We The People's avatar

If you have conclusive proof (data from multiple independent published and reviewed sources) of which weapons were used then I will agree with anything you say but without those it is all hearsay, propaganda or speculation.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Robert,

WATCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_IEC-0Yj6w

Relevant to this subject and funny as hell! Oh, and the particular "bats" were not actually anywhere near Wuhan. They were gathered from caves FAR away, and admittedly taken TO the lab. It also turned out there were ZERO "bat" meals anywhere near the "wet market" (which simply means it's a seafood market).

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The Word Herder's avatar

You seem quite reluctant to even venture out of your comfy zone...

I've given you things to look at. You haven't looked at them.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Maybe start with this: Bechamp v. Pasteur, Ethel D. Hume-- 1923!!! Money takes over science...

More interesting books: "The Invisible Rainbow," Arthur Firstenberg.

Tom Cowan has a website, with excellent videos.

Mark Bailey, and wife Sam Bailey, both MD's from NZ-- lots of interviews, videos, Sam has a SS page...

Another oldie but goldie: Dolores Cahill, Irish Molecular Biologist and Professor... highly smeared and censored, but she was of the first wave of those who spoke out back in 2020...

Mike Yeadon, former VP of Pfizer

Well, that should keep you busy for a bit... ^_^

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DeeDee's avatar

Probably not enough evidence in the world for this one - truth is spiritually discerned and otherwise "he who is convinced against his will is of the opinion still" - good for you to keep at it though, I totally don't have that much brain power at this point in the junction...

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The Word Herder's avatar

There's a TON of evidence. I have spent time and energy finding it. Not everyone has that kind of time OR energy, and that's okay. I can point to things, but just saying something is often not enough. I'd agree that some truth is spiritually discerned, but some truth is scientifically discerned, and in this case I use that term broadly. One doesn't need science to discern whether someone's pet is a dog or a cat... it's just obvious. And-- I see no reason to think you don't have enough brain power.

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We The People's avatar

I have not enough evidence to have any view on this. If you can provide references from the peer reviewed scientific literature X 10 I may be able to comment.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Look to Christine Massey's SS page. She's the real deal.

https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/

Plus, there are TONS of evidence on this, if you are visiting the places where they are plentiful... You don't have to take MY word for it, but I've been listening to folks saying this for four years now. Tom Cowan has a website, and a terrific book that came out in 2020 called "The Contagion Myth," which is an excellent book.

Cheers.

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We The People's avatar

I have read a lot of similar stuff and it may prove to be correct given time but a lack of 100% proof that viruses do exist does not necessarily mean that they don't exist. It just means 100% proof does not exist. On balance of probabilities there seems to be a lot more evidence on the side of viruses than the no virus camp but time will tell. You live and learn and I am always open to change my mind as we get more data.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

With hundreds of billions at their disposal with which to definitively "prove" why we should go on sacrificing still more $$$ (as well as our lives) to a business which depends entirely upon proving the existence of "viruses" (specific particles as the root/singular/stand-alone cause of disease) it seems they should have managed it BY NOW.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

I have a theory: Maybe we're all exposed to billions and billions of "germs" 24/7 and our only chance of remaining healthy is via proper nutrition and avoidance of (and/or detox from) poison?

We usually see firemen at the scene of fires. And this doesn't mean they're the cause of the fire. Thinking people look deeper to find the true cause of the "flare up." Human health is similar, in that something can smolder for awhile before it lights our arses up. And once we're really sick, a bunch of these particles (germs) are suddenly thought to have appeared "at the scene." But does this always mean the bugs were the CAUSE?

Maybe even an otherwise "innocuous" bug can APPEAR to be what's killing that person, due to the fact there are now so many of these germs/particles showing up (or even colonizing)?

Just a theory;-)

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The Word Herder's avatar

You may end up feeling a bit foolish for saying this BEFORE you've looked at Massey's page... The EVIDENCE is overwhelming.

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We The People's avatar

Thanks for mansplaining that to me. I have already seen Massey's stack and like I said before all this proves is that 100% conclusive evidence does not exist. It does not prove viruses do not exist.

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Lynn's avatar

I join you. My Brother, age 65, died suddenly from the COVID JAB. His co-worker told us of his ailments leading up to his death. His son insisted he take the JAB in order to see his grandson.

We lived 5 hours away. He never told me that he was sick. WHY? I will never know.

RIP Brother+

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Godspeed. Please know there are people who DO care, many brave and good people who are fighting to end this madness. Most are badly censored, but there are MANY.

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Lynn's avatar

Thank YOU.....GOD BLESS YOU....+

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Edmond Paré's avatar

Does your nephew understand that the Covid jab killed his uncle? If not, then it may be that your brother specifically decided not to lay that blame squarely on his son and ultimately indirectly on his grandson; and, also did not want you affected by the burden of that knowledge for the rest of your life. Your brother must have dearly loved all of you.

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Lynn's avatar

Thank YOU Edmond for your kind words. Nobody ever explained the circumstances that led to my Brother's death like you. He even asked his female co-worker to help him lift boxes

at work. He didn't want people to know. I don' think my nephew feels that the COVID JAB

killed his Father. But, I do. Take Care....GOD BLESS +

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Edmond Paré's avatar

Sorry about having to edit my last reply to you. Time for me to call it a night (-:

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Edmond Paré's avatar

Thank you, Lynn. My bet is that you are much like your brother and he, in the presence of God, is watching over you, too.

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Lynn's avatar

YOU are the BEST, Edmond. Thank YOU ::-) +

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The Word Herder's avatar

So sorry about your brother. xo xo

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Lynn's avatar

Thank YOU for your kind words. It means a lot :-) Take Care....

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TFish's avatar

Crying and grief are not signs of weakness, just evidence of emotional health and humanity.

Stand strong, feel, and don’t look away. This is part of the burden of living in this moment.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Yes it is. It's all part of it. And in the midst of this great evil, everyday I see just how beautiful mankind can be when challenged.

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TFish's avatar

Yes, there are still good human beings out there. You’re one of them! Thank you for all you do.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Ditto!

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kerrylyn's avatar

I had tears in my eyes just reading this.

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Vinnie's avatar

Joy, this is a test, it is ONLY a test, right now many know who rules over this earth...

HE is allowed to show himself and his rage, with greater and greater intensity....

it's up to each individual (as ever) to choose what to believe and who to follow

...things boil down to two choice...

-focus and believe in the positive, refuse to succumb to the negative destructive powers in this world through continued seeking of WISDOM and strength beyond your measure....

OR

Allow these forces to consume your brain with FEAR, rage, lust ,anger, hate...

and fall into a pit of darkness which is slowly consuming the planet...

-This darkness... forces us to look at ourselves...

we must learn to Seek strength and focus on Wisdom, and positive energy forces during this time

if we Allow the darkness to consume, confuse, destroy... (what it LOVES to do...)

it may consume you...

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Thank you for these words of wisdom. We ARE "in" this world. But we must always understand we are NOT "of" it. Blessings to you!

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TimeIsNear's avatar

You can bet their demise is coming. When it starts, it's not stopping until every last one of them are slaughtered off the face of the Earth. Pay attention, it's building on different fronts and growing rapidly. This is why you're seeing these scumbags panicking and rushing even faster towards their agendas. Remember, to know who rules over you, find out who you can't criticize.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Yes. The worm has already turned. Onward!

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The Word Herder's avatar

Oh, that's a sad, and frightening story, so sorry for those pigs!!

There's a thing about this... I once clicked on something I shouldn't have-- it took me to a video of terrible abuse, of a piglet. This post brought that right back, and I realized that while for a long time I was tortured by that video and the memory of it, I no longer feel so strongly about it... Time heals all wounds? I don't know, but I have found recently that I have to haul myself out of those kinds of emotional pits that swallow me up and hold me there...

I am NOT talking about what YOU "should do" or not do, just about my own experience...

But I love you for your compassion!

I love you for your kindness and a desire to END THE SUFFERING.

That is what makes you, and all of us, the best of what humans are...

I found that when I imagined MY abused pig being healed, it got better for me... I would be really really upset by the memory. Action, of some kind, does seem to help...

But I shared it and made SOME humor after that, with dog pix and stuff, because I wanted to BRING US BACK from that pit of despair... I just published that post.

What do you think? I hope it's not insulting to you...

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

I agree. Sometimes things build up and we just need to release. It takes a great deal of energy to deny our own feelings about what's going on around us. And with release, we can FINALLY shift gears and move on. Pretending we don't feel anything about something very real going on around us can sometimes be soul devouring. And being ABLE to effectively shift (tears maybe being the clutch?) we can move to a higher frequency of intention and more effective action towards that which we desire.

"Here I am. And this is how it is at the moment. Boo hoo. Now, this is where I DESIRE to go. And I'm relieved and happy about the future I believe I can move to from here."

Oh, and that thing we do: "I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you." VERY healing.

Godspeed!

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The Word Herder's avatar

Um. Nowhere did I say you should, or I do, "pretend we don't feel anything."

I think I have allowed this conversation from yesterday to really run off the rails.

I feel that I am not being understood, and have said some things that have caused the wrong "take" of what I'm about, and so, I take my leave. I'm a truth seeker above all things, not a coddler, nor a nanny. I am under intense pressure right now, which is surely part of why I am unwilling to listen to nonsense.

But we are ALL under intense pressure right now, whether we understand that or not.

I feel a very strong, VERY STRONG, drive to help in the battle to literally save the planet. I have tried to temper my impatience with folks who flatly refuse to look at the facts, but I find, again, that when my efforts are not working, it is not worth my time. I cannot FORCE anyone to look at facts. This is long been true since the beginning of Covid, and the beginning of Humanity, as far as I can tell.

I wish you the BEST. And I DID try to do "that thing we do." It was a loooooong dialogue, perhaps you missed it. It was not I who resorted to name-calling.

So. Peace, Love, and END 5G. xo xo xo

Thank you for the good posts, the good heart you have, and fare thee well.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

I have not found anything you've said hurtful towards me, nor do I disagree with your positions, on anything actually. You always make genuine (and logical) statements. And unless someone is TOTALLY ILLOGICAL in their responses, (and/or abusive towards you) you're nothing but INFORMATIVE and helpful toward getting as much truth as you can before others.

I appreciate your views, even if "corrective", (and this is meant to be helpful, from what I have read) because I KNOW where it's coming from - LOVE.

God bless you!

Joy

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

Except we have murderous cannibal pigs cheering on the burning and killing.

Sheepy pigs cheer them on.

Save your tears and march on. THanks for sharing.

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Lynn's avatar

What is going on in NJ with Election Integrity?

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

It's been long gone.

Exhibit A: The Governor

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Al X G's avatar

Joy, thanks for sharing your humanity in this post. I often shake with anger over how the evil globalists are attempting to rule the world through deception and depopulation. My eyes water seeing so many people oblivious to it all.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

We share this perspective for sure. For YEARS (in the trenches fighting) I had a sort of "guilt" every time I felt the slightest bit of "weeping" coming on. Almost seemed such an "indulgence" would be so totally selfish of me. But sometimes, you just have to let it out. It will sneak up on you. It can build up.

In the book "The Language of Tears" I learned that there is a particular class of stress hormone that has no OTHER way to be eliminated besides crying, i.e., it cannot be metabolized, nor does it have any other way "out" of the body, not through sweating, of even peeing. And it can cause damage to our health if left to circulate over time. So yeah, it's okay to cry. And it CAN help keep us healthy, even if it makes our eyes puffy for awhile;-)

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Al X G's avatar

Yes weeping is a natural thing, something I try to do in private.

I have other avenues to keep my anger in check such as read my Bible, shoot guns at the range and work out. Guess I’m just an old deplorable lol.

Watching “jacked up” old Joe angrily tell us last night how great a shape the country is in while admitting zero responsibility for the messes he’s caused will definitely need anger management today.

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Joy Lucette Garner's avatar

Me too! I guess I am what they call a "bitter clinger" to Bible and guns;-)

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